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I think I really need some help and advice from you all.

About 6 weeks ago, I was exposed to a loud noise while in a room w/ a tile floor and lots of echo. A plastic fixture fell and hit the floor with a reverberating crack right next to my left ear. It sounded like a gun going off.

Ever since then I have had a loud ringing in my left ear that has not gone away or even subsided, even after 6 weeks. To make things worse, any sounds coming into that ear sound distorted and have a wavering, shimmering quality to them. This effect is more than a bit of an annoyance when trying to talk to someone. But the thing that is making me crazy is that it is totally affecting the way that I can listen to music.

Any music that I try to listen to now has that same distorted wavering quality. I have tried to compensate by wearing a foam earplug in my left ear, which helps, but I can only listen at low volune, and sometimes, even with the plugs, I can still just barely hear the distorted effect on certain musical frequences.

My friends here already know how important music is to me. It is so much a part of my life, that I don't think that I can even try to live without it. It is part of my everyday existence.

For at least the last 15 years or so, I have worn foam earplugs as protection to every concert that I have attended. I even wear them when I cut the grass or when I vacuum.

To be so careful for so many years and to have this suddenly happen out of the blue due to a freak accident is just maddening.

I took time off from work last Monday to see a Specialist and to have a hearing test. The doctor's diagnosis confirmed what I was already suspecting and dreading.

The damage could very well be permanent.

He gave the usual it might get better on it's own speech but he also said that having 6 weeks go by with no measurable improvement is not a good sign.

He also wants me to get an MRI as there may already have been something going wrong internally that this accident has aggrevated.

This thing has really brought me down, and the visit to the doctor has had the totally opposite effect than what I was hoping.

I almost did not post this as there have been other folks here who have been forced to deal with far worse things in their lives recently. For me to equate a partial loss of hearing with the death of a beloved spouse, friend, or family member sounds frankly, a bit selfish and self-serving.

But as we all are music lovers and I know that there are quite a few fellow guitarists here (as well as avid concert goers), I really need to know if there is anyone else out there who is dealing with this kind of hearing loss, tinnytis, or distorted hearing.

Maybe it will make me feel better if I know that I'm not alone and of course any suggestions or advice on how to deal with this would be very much appreciated.

I am very interested right now in anything that might help.

Please let me know ...

Thankyou for reading this.

Peace...

Andrew





[Edited on 8/8/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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Wow, Andrew, hope it gets better.

Your ear drum is still 100% intact, right? No problem with your jaw? I've lost my hearing in one ear for two days, but that was because I sat too close to a speaker at a Buddy Guy concert. I can't really see how a one time event of something falling would cause six weeks of problems unless it ruptured the membrane. No fluid behind the ear? Sometimes that is a problem, but the doc could easily see the fluid through the ear drum. Perhaps the cranial nerves are involved.

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I think I really need some help and advice from you all.

About 6 weeks ago, I was exposed to a loud noise while in a room w/ a tile floor and lots of echo. A plastic fixture fell and hit the floor with a reverberating crack right next to my left ear. It sounded like a gun going off.

Ever since then I have had a loud ringing in my left ear that has not gone away or even subsided, even after 6 weeks. To make things worse, any sounds coming into that ear sound distorted and have a wavering, shimmering quality to them. This effect is more than a bit of an annoyance when trying to talk to someone. But the thing that is making me crazy is that it is totally affecting the way that I can listen to music.

Any music that I try to listen to now has that same distorted wavering quality. I have tried to compensate by wearing a foam earplug in my left ear, which helps, but I can only listen at low volune, and sometimes, even with the plugs, I can still just barely hear the distorted effect on certain musical frequences.

My friends here already know how important music is to me. It is so much a part of my life, that I don't think that I can even try to live without it. It is part of my everyday existence.

For at least the last 15 years or so, I have worn foam earplugs as protection to every concert that I have attended. I even wear them when I cut the grass or when I vacuum.

To be so careful for so many years and to have this suddenly happen out of the blue due to a freak accident is just maddening.

I took time off from work last Monday to see a Specialist and to have a hearing test. The doctor's diagnosis confirmed what I was already suspecting and dreading.

The damage could very well be permanent.

He gave the usual it might get better on it's own speech but he also said that having 6 weeks go by with no measurable improvement is not a good sign.

He also wants me to get an MRI as there may already have been something going wrong internally that this accident has aggrevated.

This thing has really brought me down, and the visit to the doctor has had the totally opposite effect than what I was hoping.

I almost did not post this as there have been other folks here who have been forced to deal with far worse things in their lives recently. For me to equate a partial loss of hearing with the death of a beloved spouse, friend, or family member sounds frankly, a bit selfish and self-serving.

But as we all are music lovers and I know that there are quite a few fellow guitarists here (as well as avid concert goers), I really need to know if there is anyone else out there who is dealing with this kind of hearing loss, tinnytis, or distorted hearing.

Maybe it will make me feel better if I know that I'm not alone and of course any suggestions or advice on how to deal with this would be very much appreciated.

I am very interested right now in anything that might help.

Please let me know ...

Thankyou for reading this.

Peace...

Andrew





[Edited on 8/8/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]


You may have permament hearing loss, but the ringing may go away eventually. I had a couple of things happen to me, one my head was slammed into the ground till I lost hearing in one ear. The hearing eventually came back, but a few years later I had a gun go off next to my head and I do have hearing loss in that ear but I have adapted. If someone is not close to me or there is other noise, I look at their lips while I am listening with the good ear and that is usually enough for me to hear and understand them. There are many people with hearing loss and 6 weeks may not be enough time for it to heal, so give yourself more time before you scare yourself.

 

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Wow, Andrew, hope it gets better.

Your ear drum is still 100% intact, right? No problem with your jaw? I've lost my hearing in one ear for two days, but that was because I sat too close to a speaker at a Buddy Guy concert. I can't really see how a one time event of something falling would cause six weeks of problems unless it ruptured the membrane. No fluid behind the ear? Sometimes that is a problem, but the doc could easily see the fluid through the ear drum. Perhaps the cranial nerves are involved.

Good luck, keep us posted.


Thanks brother. I appreciate your concern..

That's what is so maddening about this. It doesn't make sense. The doctor is leaning towards possible nerve damage or bone degradation which is why I have to do an MRI this Monday. I'm hoping that sheds some light on it.

On a lighter note, there is a small bookstore in our neighborhood owned by an older couple who are big folk music fans and who occasionally do free concerts at the store featuring some of our local folk players.

My wife and I stopped by their store this morning just to browse and they have a new "store dog"...a very friendly male German Shepard mix who I took to immediately. I asked his name while I was patting his head, and the owner replied it was "Townes." I asked "As in Townes Van Zandt?" Her eyes lit up and she said "Yes! You know Townes Van Zandt?"

Needless to say. We had a very nice chat . I think some shows might be in their future...

 

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I think I really need some help and advice from you all.

About 6 weeks ago, I was exposed to a loud noise while in a room w/ a tile floor and lots of echo. A plastic fixture fell and hit the floor with a reverberating crack right next to my left ear. It sounded like a gun going off.

Ever since then I have had a loud ringing in my left ear that has not gone away or even subsided, even after 6 weeks. To make things worse, any sounds coming into that ear sound distorted and have a wavering, shimmering quality to them. This effect is more than a bit of an annoyance when trying to talk to someone. But the thing that is making me crazy is that it is totally affecting the way that I can listen to music.

Any music that I try to listen to now has that same distorted wavering quality. I have tried to compensate by wearing a foam earplug in my left ear, which helps, but I can only listen at low volune, and sometimes, even with the plugs, I can still just barely hear the distorted effect on certain musical frequences.

My friends here already know how important music is to me. It is so much a part of my life, that I don't think that I can even try to live without it. It is part of my everyday existence.

For at least the last 15 years or so, I have worn foam earplugs as protection to every concert that I have attended. I even wear them when I cut the grass or when I vacuum.

To be so careful for so many years and to have this suddenly happen out of the blue due to a freak accident is just maddening.

I took time off from work last Monday to see a Specialist and to have a hearing test. The doctor's diagnosis confirmed what I was already suspecting and dreading.

The damage could very well be permanent.

He gave the usual it might get better on it's own speech but he also said that having 6 weeks go by with no measurable improvement is not a good sign.

He also wants me to get an MRI as there may already have been something going wrong internally that this accident has aggrevated.

This thing has really brought me down, and the visit to the doctor has had the totally opposite effect than what I was hoping.

I almost did not post this as there have been other folks here who have been forced to deal with far worse things in their lives recently. For me to equate a partial loss of hearing with the death of a beloved spouse, friend, or family member sounds frankly, a bit selfish and self-serving.

But as we all are music lovers and I know that there are quite a few fellow guitarists here (as well as avid concert goers), I really need to know if there is anyone else out there who is dealing with this kind of hearing loss, tinnytis, or distorted hearing.

Maybe it will make me feel better if I know that I'm not alone and of course any suggestions or advice on how to deal with this would be very much appreciated.

I am very interested right now in anything that might help.

Please let me know ...

Thankyou for reading this.

Peace...

Andrew





[Edited on 8/8/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]


You may have permament hearing loss, but the ringing may go away eventually. I had a couple of things happen to me, one my head was slammed into the ground till I lost hearing in one ear. The hearing eventually came back, but a few years later I had a gun go off next to my head and I do have hearing loss in that ear but I have adapted. If someone is not close to me or there is other noise, I look at their lips while I am listening with the good ear and that is usually enough for me to hear and understand them. There are many people with hearing loss and 6 weeks may not be enough time for it to heal, so give yourself more time before you scare yourself.


The ringing I could get used to if I had to. It's the distortion that has me worried.

[Edited on 8/8/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]

 

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But as we all are music lovers and I know that there are quite a few fellow guitarists here (as well as avid concert goers), I really need to know if there is anyone else out there who is dealing with this kind of hearing loss, tinnytis, or distorted hearing.



I have had tinnitus for 5 years, just started ringing one day. Mine gets kind of loud sometimes, I now take two meds that make it worse.

I freaked really bad at first, I was going through one of my depression periods and I was thinking there was no way I could deal with it.

I have gotten used to it (as much as I can), but it still rings on.

I hope you are able to find out what is wrong and get it corrected my friend, I sure do.


I'm sorry it happened to you.........


[Edited on 8/8/2009 by OldDirtRoad]

 

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Man,Andrew....really sorry this happened...hope it clears up....

 

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thinking of you and hoping your hearing returns to 100% and soon....

 

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  posted on 8/8/2009 at 07:24 PM
Sorry Andrew

Hope it clears up soon.

 

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  posted on 8/8/2009 at 08:30 PM
I'm with everyone else, Andrew. I hope this gets better. Praying for you.
 

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Oh Andrew! As a music fanatic myself, I can only imagine your frustration. Why don't you write to Jack Pearson? His e-mail is listed on his website. He deals with excruciating tinnitus and has for many years. I'm sure he'd be willing to discuss this topic with you.

I'm so sorry, brother. My heart goes out to you and I'll be praying for your full recovery!!!

 

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We've all got our moutains to climb, and we are all here for each other in our times of need. Hope that you get some relief soon

 

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  posted on 8/8/2009 at 10:58 PM
You have gone to the doctor that is the first step. I met Ted Nuggent and he told me to speak up because he was losing his hearing. You may try to contact him some how. He might respond and have a thought. It is a very long shot but unless you try, you will never know.
 

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  posted on 8/9/2009 at 12:58 AM
Real sorry to hear about this Andrew (no pun intended!) I think tinnitus has something to do with blood circulation, not sure. My mother-in-law (battle-axe) suffers from this. I've looked it up on the internet as far as tinnitus goes and there wasn't really anything but some controversial surgery that could lead to more deafness. I don't think you have tinnitus but as your doctor said some type of physical damage. I would seek out the best ear specialist I could find. I know the Boys Town Institute in Omaha has a world renowned reputation for diagnosing ear problems. I sent my 26 yr old son there when he was about 4 years old for help. They are one of the best in the country. Anyways I'll say a prayer for you. I do count my good hearing as a blessing and don't take it for granted. Peace!

 

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I think I really need some help and advice from you all.

About 6 weeks ago, I was exposed to a loud noise while in a room w/ a tile floor and lots of echo. A plastic fixture fell and hit the floor with a reverberating crack right next to my left ear. It sounded like a gun going off.

Ever since then I have had a loud ringing in my left ear that has not gone away or even subsided, even after 6 weeks. To make things worse, any sounds coming into that ear sound distorted and have a wavering, shimmering quality to them. This effect is more than a bit of an annoyance when trying to talk to someone. But the thing that is making me crazy is that it is totally affecting the way that I can listen to music.

Any music that I try to listen to now has that same distorted wavering quality. I have tried to compensate by wearing a foam earplug in my left ear, which helps, but I can only listen at low volune, and sometimes, even with the plugs, I can still just barely hear the distorted effect on certain musical frequences.

My friends here already know how important music is to me. It is so much a part of my life, that I don't think that I can even try to live without it. It is part of my everyday existence.

For at least the last 15 years or so, I have worn foam earplugs as protection to every concert that I have attended. I even wear them when I cut the grass or when I vacuum.

To be so careful for so many years and to have this suddenly happen out of the blue due to a freak accident is just maddening.

I took time off from work last Monday to see a Specialist and to have a hearing test. The doctor's diagnosis confirmed what I was already suspecting and dreading.

The damage could very well be permanent.

He gave the usual it might get better on it's own speech but he also said that having 6 weeks go by with no measurable improvement is not a good sign.

He also wants me to get an MRI as there may already have been something going wrong internally that this accident has aggrevated.

This thing has really brought me down, and the visit to the doctor has had the totally opposite effect than what I was hoping.

I almost did not post this as there have been other folks here who have been forced to deal with far worse things in their lives recently. For me to equate a partial loss of hearing with the death of a beloved spouse, friend, or family member sounds frankly, a bit selfish and self-serving.

But as we all are music lovers and I know that there are quite a few fellow guitarists here (as well as avid concert goers), I really need to know if there is anyone else out there who is dealing with this kind of hearing loss, tinnytis, or distorted hearing.

Maybe it will make me feel better if I know that I'm not alone and of course any suggestions or advice on how to deal with this would be very much appreciated.

I am very interested right now in anything that might help.

Please let me know ...

Thankyou for reading this.

Peace...

Andrew





[Edited on 8/8/2009 by les_paul_sunburst]


Andrew, last year I had a sudden hearing loss that , over the course of 10 days, went from just a little problem understanding conversation in a noisy environment to being completely deaf in my left ear.
Now , after being a musician for the better part of 35 years, I've come to accept some hearing loss as an occupational hazard due to the abuse that I heaped on my ears in my younger days. I've taken great pains to protect them in the last 20 years or so and have kept my loss in the range of 15 to 20 %, but this was all very sudden and freaked me out to say the least.
After doing the rounds with my regular Dr and seeing a specialist, an MRI revealed a growth called a cholesteotoma behind my left eardrum.
Basically, it's a non-cancerous tumor that will grow on or behind the eardrum in the inner ear due to skin cells being shed and attaching themselves in the inner ear instead of passing out in the ear wax. They are very slow growing and can be lingering for a year or more before they reveal themselves.
One symptom of these is sometimes partial facial paralysis on the same side as the hearing loss and/or a very bad taste in your mouth, due to them usually growing near and putting pressure on the facial and taste nerves that pass through your inner ear.
Even though they aren't cancerous, they're still dangerous due to the nerve involvement and the fact that there is only a very thin plate of bone that separates the inner ear from the brain that can be eroded away as the tumor grows in size.
After they are removed, the Dr will usually delay the reconstruction of the inner ear for 6 months to a year in order to be sure the cholesteotoma doesn't grow back
I had mine removed last November and at my quarterly hearing test in June , my hearing in my left ear was down to 74% from 85% the quarter before, so there's concern that it my be coming back and if I'm down again in September ( which I suspect I will be) then we'll do another round of MRI and a second surgery if warranted.
Probably going to force me to retire from live performance or at the very least take a long sabbatical from it if that's the case, but I'm OK with that.
Not saying this is your problem, but I'd almost guarantee you that's what they're looking to rule out with the MRI.
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  posted on 8/9/2009 at 04:07 PM
I know your suffering. My hearing loss comes from a different condition, but I experience alot of the same symptoms. Tinnitus 24/7, severe distortion and noise sensitivity. I would advise waiting for the results of the MRI and if you are not satisfied find a Neurotologist. It's a subspecialty of ENTs. I have not been able to stay at a concert for the whole show for over a year. I had to leave a Mule concert just recently during the break and that was too long, but I pushed it. The same with the Beacon this year. Your not being selfish this sounds like it is impacting your life. Get help and don't stop until you find the right doctor. I have been through numerous ones and do alot of my own research. Good Luck. PM me if you have any questions or just need to vent.
 

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bro that sucks...praying that it gets better for you

 

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  posted on 8/9/2009 at 07:03 PM
You may now have a case of tennitis i have it and it started with me after years of music live.. i had not played live for years i set up two monitors and started getting back into playing shape and bang the ringing started and the distortion as well (but the distortion did get better) but the ringing never stopps and certain tones can and will set it off worse have a doc check out your hearing and as with all the others here wish you the best... if you do indeed have it get a really good set of earplugs to play with and use at concerts and even work they cancel out alot of the hurtfull range.. all the best Mike

 

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  posted on 8/9/2009 at 07:21 PM
I have some loss of hearing from all the shows I have attended.

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  posted on 8/9/2009 at 07:23 PM
If you haven't been to an ENT Doctor that might be a good place to start.

 

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If you haven't been to an ENT Doctor that might be a good place to start.


I should have noted that the specialist I mentioned was an ENT. He was referred by my primary doctor, so I'm hoping he knows his stuff...

 

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  posted on 8/10/2009 at 08:07 AM
I have high frequency deafness which prevents me from hearing certain sounds and which is accompanied by tinnitis-constant ear ringing. Probably from playing live for years coupled with my appetite for live music.
I do use good ear plugs when I see a show now.
I shake my head at people who blast their ipods so loud that I can hear it clearly standing next to them and try to warn my kids about loud music.
Hope it clears up for you bro'

 

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(((Andrew))) I had a hearing loss problem in 1989. I woke up one morning completely deaf in my right ear and partially deaf in my left ear. I went to a specialist (who said this is common) and he said it can be caused by a virus that effects the nerves from your ear to your brain. I had a CAT scan. He put me on prednisone (steroid anti-inflammatory) for a month. I ended up getting all the hearing back in my left ear, but only 25% hearing in my right ear. It takes some getting used to. If I want to have a conversation on the phone I need to use my left ear - can't hear much in the way of vocal tones in my right ear. The particular type of damage I have is not helped by a hearing aid - so I don't have one.

I fervently hope your doctor comes up with something that will help you. It can be very disorienting. I will be sending you lots of love and good vibes.

 

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It's been eons since I had a hearing test. For the most part, I haven't noticed any loss, and I consider myself fortunate since I have enjoyed live music for decades now. Also, playing live music, you'd think it would put me at a higher risk for hearing loss, but apparently it isn't so (so far.) One thing I have noticed is when I am riding in a pack of Harleys. One of my club bros rides a Buell powered chopper, and it's ungodly loud. A couple times I have been on his right side (exhaust side) when he has tached it up and noticed it literally hurt my left eardrum. Fortunately, it didn't cause any prolonged ringing in my left ear. Now, any time I am in a pack of bikes, I make sure I take the left side of the lane, or ride to the right of someone who has mufflers.

LPSB, I hope you get everything straightened out soon. Take it easy.

 

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  posted on 8/10/2009 at 09:11 AM
huh?????? whadja say?

 

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